Pit Mix?

Lixx · 07-23-2005, 01:48 PM

Well, as the 'deadline' draws closer for BSL to start here in Ontario, I am faced with a small dilema. Now in my eyes Dante is a heinz 57, with no way of knowing what he is. Most often he is a Bansenji mix or Ridgeback mix to most people. However there are a few (usually the more 'knowledge lacking' people) who think he is a PB mix

Now I have no way of proving he's not, but there is no way to prove he is either. If there is PB in him, is a very small %. Right now he's still registered with the city as a JRT x Spaniel, as that is what we were told he was when we got him as a puppy. I realllllly don't want to have to muzzle him for the rest of his life in public, but I do not want some fanatic calling animal control on him & me. Should I just take my chances and wait until something *does* happen, or muzzle him to be on the safe side? What would you do?

(on a side note, they are now talking about banning rotties too

So I may end up having to muzzle Morpheus)

SIChins · 07-23-2005, 01:55 PM

If he is licensed as a JRT x spaniel, I would just make sure you have a copy of that on hand, or if you think he is ridgeback x basenji, ask them to change that for his records to state that, I doubt they would think otherwise. Then I would just let it be, and if someone says something to you, just say what you have him down for on his license, and I really doubt they will persue this. He really doesn't look like he has pit in him to me, especially when you say you think he has ridgeback in him, since I see that more.
I can't believe that they are going ahead with the BSL

Lixx · 07-23-2005, 02:10 PM

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2. Is my dog a pit bull?

Under the amendments to DOLA, pit bull is defined as:

A pit bull terrier
A Staffordshire bull terrier
An American Staffordshire terrier
An American pit bull terrier
A dog that has an appearance and physical characteristics substantially similar to any of those dogs.

3. Who decides whether or not a dog is a pit bull?

The amendments provide that in a Part IX proceeding the onus of proving that the dog is not a pit bull will lie with the owner of the dog. In offence proceedings, the amendments provide that the prosecution must prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt and that, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, a veterinarian's certificate attesting that a dog is a pit bull is evidence of that fact. Part IX proceedings and offence proceedings are heard before the Ontario Court of Justice.

I wasn't too worried about this until a recent trip to the dog park when this lady (who works at the Humane Society) called him a Pit mix. (God knows she's pry responsible for alot of mislabled dogs!) But the fact is he's tan and has a short coat and more *morons* like her may see a *similarity*. With my current vet he's simply listed as 'mixed', and with his original vet the JRT x Spaniel. I know my current vet does not think he's PB (she thinks the Ridgeback X) so aslong as they don;t get some vet who's out to get pit bulls to label him, it should hold up in court. I just don't want to jeopardize Dante in any way. Though he walks with a Halti, so maybe they'll think it's a muzzle

Solarsis · 07-23-2005, 03:25 PM

I have no idea how that last descriptive clause can hold up in court. It's ridiculous!

Any old moron on the street could say "oh that dog has ears like a pittie...I'm scared now!" or judge a dog based on coat colour. None of these are fool proof facts that the dog has pittie in it

Imagine the number of dogs that will now be persecuted because of it! This whole thing makes me livid!

veggiegirl · 07-23-2005, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Solarsis

I have no idea how that last descriptive clause can hold up in court. It's ridiculous!

Any old moron on the street could say "oh that dog has ears like a pittie...I'm scared now!" or judge a dog based on coat colour. None of these are fool proof facts that the dog has pittie in it

Imagine the number of dogs that will now be persecuted because of it! This whole thing makes me livid!

Me too. Its so ridiculous!

Lizz I hope you don't have any problems.

Mollymitten · 07-23-2005, 04:13 PM

Pardon my ignorance, but what does BSL stand for?

This whole thing is stupid. Apparently human racial profiling is despised, but not for animals. I will certainly be doing my utmost to attend that vigil on August 28. I'm not a dog owner, but certainly want to feel that I have done what I can to stop this madness. Now Rotties too you say. Absolutely pathetic!

velvetrabbit · 07-23-2005, 05:47 PM

Breed Specific Legislation

Mollymitten · 07-23-2005, 05:51 PM

Thanks

suzoo · 07-23-2005, 06:19 PM

Dante doesn't look anything like a pitbull to me.. I'd be sure that the dog licence and your Vet records state the same thing.. then you should not have a problem.
Where are they talking about banning Rottis? I haven't heard anything about that.

Megan · 07-23-2005, 11:09 PM

I think even if you note he is not a pit bull, if he LOOKS like a pit bull, he will be labled one,a nd thus be under the law.

I was told some places will go by looks alone- and they rate them on a "point scale". If they have so many points; they are deemed a pit bull--even if they aren't.

See how horrible BSL is? A dog that is not even one of the "banned" breeds isn't safe...

And unfortantly, this is where "I told you so" comes into play. The people who owned other dogs who are deemed mean, and didn't stand up to fight BSL in pit bulls--are now facing it in rotties...and I'm sure will soon move ot other dogs-- When BSL starts, no matter if your breed is NOT affected, or is--you should FIGHT AGAINST it--because it CAN be your breed next....(Not pointed at anyone in particular; but them considering rotts made me think of this).