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Old 03-05-2008, 12:23 PM   #11
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Licensing and owner checking would only work if enforced. Unfortunately puppies are not only bought through registered breeders, they can be bought from the neighbour down the road. I have had 3 Rots of my own and have trained another 3 for other people. My 3 were out of the same litter and free of charge cos the owner of the mother dog didn't know what else to do at the time....it was an unplanned breeding via a stray rottie. The other 3 were rescues that had received varying amounts of abuse.

There is a very small window available for retraining an abused dog...regardless of breed. Any age up to 3 years old a dog can be brought out of abuse aggression, after 3 yrs old to about 6 it can be done but is alot harder as the abuse aggression is pretty well ingrained by that age.

The dogs in the BBC article had been in the same family since puppy...they had been brought up well and trained with good manners, yet the stigma of the breed caused by bad training of dogs who have been abused and through that abuse become aggressive had forced the owners of the decent dogs to get rid of them for fear of their dog being labeled as dangerous, when chances are that would not be the case at all.

As with everything, the minority have caused problems for the majority.

As for a poodle not being capable of killing...it is more than capable. A small child playing with a dog...whether it be a poodle or a rottie...if that dog does not want to play anymore for any reason, it will turn and it will do as a wild dog does...it will go for the head and/or throat of what it feels is invading its space. A child grabbed by the throat by a dog will die.

No dog should ever be left without adult supervision around children, every dog is capable of biting a child and doing significant damage to that child.

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Old 03-05-2008, 11:10 PM   #12
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Honestly the more you restrict things the worst they get. Look at restricted substances. Its illegal to smoke pot and yet any idiot can purchase it if they want to.

All show dogs run the risk of a degree of inbreeding based on limited gene pools. It can be common in some circles to line breed or inbreed for certain characteristics, although not generation after generation.

Any animal with teeth can bite. Your idiot neighbor with the mini chi-pug-schno-poo thing is just as likely to have an uncontrollable dog as the guy with a mean rottie. Especially once you take into account its never walked on its own or had a leash used other than as an accessory.

I've worked with rotties ever since I adopted my mix. I've fostered, rescued and retrained myself. Never have I feared for my life. Not once. I would not think twice about encouraging my family to adopt rotties or mixes, even the ones with young children. So long as you are a responsible pet owner (and even good pet owners aren't always responsible) there is no issue with any breed.

If people are worried about their kids they need to get goldfish or pet rocks. Not a cat or dog or hamster (those bites really hurt as they are deep and narrow). Any variable that allows room for something to go wrong is something that needs to be controlled by the adult, not allowed to go wrong and blamed on the pet or the pet's owner.
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When things like this happen, it makes me so angry! Just because one rottie did something dangerous, which was probably by accident, they condemn the whole breed! I feel so sorry for the family but I also think of the rotties who are now deprived of homes
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